Most of us know the feeling. You call a government helpline, listen to a menu of options that don’t quite match why you’re calling, press 1, then 3, then 0, and settle in to wait. By the time you reach a person, you’re frustrated, they’re under pressure, and neither of you is at your best.
Jenna Shanks knows the experience better than most: she has a personal hold-time record she’d rather forget. She also spends her working life trying to make sure fewer people have to go through it.
In episode #10 of The DigiGov Podcast, recorded live at the end of day one of DigiGov Expo, host Piers Kelly sits down with Jenna Shanks from NICE. With every seminar on the show floor promising that AI can clear the public sector backlog overnight, they cut through the noise and ask a simple question: can AI really fix the citizen experience, or is it just another sticking plaster on old systems?
For many people, a contact centre is their first, and sometimes only, point of contact with government. When that experience breaks down, the consequences go well beyond a bad afternoon. People are often calling about things that really matter to their lives: tax, benefits, court dates, housing. Getting it wrong, or making it impossible to get through, has a real cost.
At the same time, the technology has moved on quickly. The conversation has shifted from basic chatbots to agentic AI, and public sector leaders are under growing pressure to show they’re keeping up without putting vulnerable citizens or their own staff at risk.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone working in or with public sector contact centres, casework teams or citizen services: digital and transformation leaders, heads of customer service, and frontline managers wondering what AI will mean for their teams. It’s also a great listen if you’ve ever been stuck on hold and wondered why it still has to be this way.
Jenna is honest, funny and refreshingly direct about both the opportunities and the risks. She doesn’t pretend AI is a quick fix, and her advice on getting started is as practical as it gets.
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